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Feuerstein's or Tidal Wave: Which Do You Miss More?

Take our poll and tell us your thoughts.

Hey, remember when signs promising a reopening didn't hang on Feuerstein's and the Tidal Wave?

Remember when a short walk down the River Styx Bridge was the only thing separating you from a fun night in the borough? Remember when you didn't have that feeling you'd never see them open again?

It's been a while since either spot's been open. And we got to thinking:

Which do you miss more?

Do you miss the bar at Feuerstein's? Do you wish you could enjoy dinner and a drink on the deck at the Tidal Wave?

Tell us in the comments and take our poll.

Concerned October 23, 2011 at 12:52 PM
I think Jazzman should be mayor as he thinks he knows everything about nothing!! Its a shame what happened to the River Styx area as it was the center of town thru the 70's and is now falling apart. the last thing we need are more parks. we need some industry to help the town survive. We need to use the lake to our benefit whether it be with restaurants or nightspots as that seems to be the only thing that ever worked in this town!
Lake Resident October 23, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Also curious about the lower River Styx Area which is TOTALLY NEGLECTED! They spent so much money near the Police Station yet ignore this area? What gives?? From the length of time & the constant looks of things it seems the town/council is just turning the cheek. Why not capitalize on this area? It could be the little Hopatcong gem due to it's beautiful lakeviews/access and locality.
Lake Resident October 23, 2011 at 01:15 PM
On another note, I heard Kabob's has now closed or is closing this weekend, they are moving his business OUT of town to another location.
BeachBum October 23, 2011 at 01:32 PM
Exactly - This area is a goldmine for business if it is DONE correctly - could be an area similar to how Sparta did it in Lake Mohawk
BeachBum October 23, 2011 at 01:33 PM
TOTALLY NEGLECTED - It's a shame!
BeachBum October 23, 2011 at 01:34 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all - Do you know where the business is re-locating?
jazzman October 23, 2011 at 02:09 PM
i never complained when they added those street lights ,i thought they looked great,but when they cut down those trees to build and only because of the location,..that hideous 911 memorial, having no input from the public,only thinking about the self gratification and pats on the backs, now a new boro hall a new police station, more employees,more cops and big salaries to match,doing what ever you want with someone elses money becomes a currupt system,and a bigger negative began when they cut those tree
Lake Resident October 23, 2011 at 02:41 PM
I heard Ledgewood Route 46 - I think in the hotel over there
Lake Resident October 23, 2011 at 02:43 PM
I agree, so hard to observe a great Memorial by where they placed it, I think drivers are to busy watching the roads/traffic at the busy intersection to even take notice of the beautiful respresentaion.
jazzman October 23, 2011 at 03:36 PM
my only real thought when i see it, is why,why spend all that money,demolish all those trees just for that location AHHH...its in the parade route...and the trees im thinking, cut so they dont fall on the bronze,but then again if you walk through lower modick you`ll see a tree that is completely dead for more then 10yrs still standing waiting for a big limb to catch you in the head,I guess a bronze fireman statue,and two girders from the twin tower wins out over any one person walking,or any baby in a carriage
The Watcher October 23, 2011 at 03:48 PM
OMG jazzman are you actually suggesting lake access for the residents?
james October 23, 2011 at 04:26 PM
You people do realize the town doesn't own those properties, right?
T October 23, 2011 at 06:19 PM
Remember..."This is NOT a scientific poll".
The Watcher October 23, 2011 at 07:33 PM
You're right about the trees but it's interesting that you thought the street lights were worth over $80,000 of our tax money. You didn't think that money would be better spent elsewhere in the town?
KyBu October 23, 2011 at 08:50 PM
@The Watcher, the money used in the center of town to do the street lights, brick crosswalks, and wheelchair accessable "dips" in the sidewalks, along with new sidewalks was part of a "beautification grant" that the state gave us, we had to use it for those purposes.
KyBu October 23, 2011 at 08:54 PM
I hope they do well there...all year round, as they do in just the summer in Hopatcong. It's sad when a business pulls out of our town because they don't feel that they are making the money that they need to. Unfortunately, in their location, unless you live close, or you are on the lake in a boat, it's hard to get people in. I have eaten there once, and I thought the food and service was great, but basically far from there and wouldn't travel there for a night out. I wish them the best.
KyBu October 23, 2011 at 08:57 PM
Nicely said "Longtimeresident" :)
jazzman October 23, 2011 at 10:45 PM
and then there`s eminent domain
jazzman October 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM
the problem....the worlds upside down...and I thought i was holding back having only 49 yrs of history here in town and making only observations
charlotte October 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM
I read so much about people wanting to bring business into Hopatcong. This would be wonderful, for all, if possible. One has to look at this rationally. My questions are: Where would it go? What type of business? Would it effect businesses that are already here (a CVS would put Rite Aide out of business)? Would the business have enough "draw" to sustain itself by with monies brought in from Hopatcong residents. The Quik Chek will probably close when their lease runs out. Also, let's face it, coming in from Lakeside Blvd., the "town" gives off the impression that it is poor. The businesses along that strip keep their outside areas looking like they are situated in the middle of a slum!! It is not an attractive sight. Even the Lawyers building is unattractive!! First impressions mean a lot to prospective investors. There are times, in the winter, when it is almost impossible for most of us to get to our jobs, get back home, or even get out for supplies. In the summer, getting through the traffic at the State Park can be a hassle. There is no easy, quick or direct, way in & out of town. I rarely even go into town.....it's "out of the way"!!
Lake Resident October 23, 2011 at 11:23 PM
Amazing isn't it that the town looks so poor although taxes are through the roof? . Agreed Charlotte well said, no attraction or persona what so ever...
The Watcher October 24, 2011 at 03:04 AM
@KyBu All of the costs of the Beautification Project were NOT covered under the grant. We paid over $80,000 of our tax dollars for the street lights etc. Grants very rarely (if ever) cover the entire cost of a project. Were you one of the people that bought into the claim that the council brought in new businesses? Only thing I saw was a few businesses left and were replaced. I for one would rather have the produce store than the DD.
BeachBum October 24, 2011 at 05:12 PM
Coming in from Lakeside Blvd as you enter into Hopatcong looks horrible as a result of over grown shrubs, a large dirt parking lot with run down trucks, empty buildings for sale, sidewalks which are NEVER maintained by the town w/ weeds over growing the sidewalks, cardboard signs, empty lots - The town needs a WOW factor which it NEVER had
jazzman October 24, 2011 at 10:36 PM
and would be nice if someone could cut the weeds down between pathmart and the state park traffic light,branchs,..weeds three feet high,a redesign of that roadway with a sidewalk and street lights,how does one walk or ride a bike out of town having no shoulder or path way!!!yep and i`ll bet you can find grit on those sidewalks from last winter...So which do i miss the most....neither...the Mad house.... as young boy i sat on those front steps the day after,as water was still dripping from ceilings...heavenly insured both of those properties are fire hazards and waiting to be lit,... they should be demolished
Donna October 27, 2011 at 05:54 PM
When the days of Hopatcong being a playground for the wealthy ended, it seems like whoever was in charge of this town lacked insight - going back as far as Mayor Modick. Many of the bungalows (summer homes) in the hills were built on tiny lots - no one had the perception of thinking that down the road they would turn into year-round residences. That being said, I, too, feel badly about the neglected center of town - River Styx Road! Some of those lights placed at the "new" center of town could have been placed there. Quick Chek, Three-in-One and Rite Aid - I'm not getting it! The lake is the town's primary asset, and it's not showcased at all on Hopatchung Road! I am not a fan of the town Christmas Tree - as far as I'm concerned, the town Christmas Tree exists a little further down on River Styx Road - it is now known as the "Freedom Tree". I agree that there could be nice eateries and taverns in that section, not unlike Lake Mohawk. And personally, I miss Feursteins - especially the days when Billy Hunter ran it! There was an interesting cross-section of Hopatcong personalities that gathered there - not unlike "Cheers"! And I never did, and still don't, like to drink!
Roll Back Our Tax October 28, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Lake Hopatcong is NO longer the primary asset at least to the Hopatcong residents. You would think lakefront homes would have held their value in this recession if you bought right and did NOT buy it at the height of the housing market. Ours hasn't and it's value has fallen $140,000 since we bought it in 2003. Case for examination. http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/56-Ithanell-Rd-Hopatcong-NJ-07843/39941385_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-bubble-address} This house is in foreclosure @ 56 Ithanell Rd. It hasn't shown up on www.foreclosure.com http://www.foreclosure.com/search.html?q=56+ithanell+rd%2C+hopatcong%2Cnj because the owners walked away and gave it back to the bank. When they bought in 2005 for $600,000 taxes were $6,824/year. The house is now worth $352,400 and the taxes are $10,723/year. This town thinks lakefront owners are sitting on a gold mine of profits when in reality if you can't manage the lake water levels, pave the streets or provide excellent schools, there is no attraction to living on the lake or above the lake if you can't afford to live here any longer.
Lake Resident October 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM
I believe this town still lacks insight. The town lacks complete enforcement of such items as cutting your lawn, cutting back overgrown bushes, picking up garbage, old left over debris, etc, etc etc... I agree the lower River Styx over the bridge (as well as Lakeside Blvd) it is such an utter shame and that the town ignores and chooses not to capitalize that Hopatcong is a Lake community and not showcase our biggest asset the lake. Thank goodness Pavinci's and Johnny's marina is over to keeping the area half way decent to look at.
Lake Resident October 28, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Agreed!
Roll Back Our Tax October 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM
And fortunately Pavinci's was taken off the market. Was up for sale. http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/14850398/453-River-Styx-Road-Hopatcong-NJ/
jazzman October 28, 2011 at 04:04 PM
how would a nice condo in its spot look,well, everyones always looking for and thinking "revenue" like thats going to fix anything,anymore rev and it`ll a go towards a new boro hall ,and a new police station, and the roads ! forget about that lower styx area not in my lifetime, the entrance to Hopatcong...plant some trees and cleaning up all those elections signs,garage sale,house sale, car sales,and the weeds I`m only talking about curb appeal,how much could that cost!!!the town wants to make money,So build that daycare center down in the old log cabin lets try investing in ourselves,.. a good example for eminent domain if there was one!,... a new boro hall like selling your sole,I would agree to new police station though,with that the boro could expand having all the parking it needed,and if the fireman would allow it ,.. attach the police station perfectly to back of the fire house making two entrances

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